Source: The Sovereign Scribe http://www.freezone.org/mc/e_conv06.htm
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Interview with Al Bielek 1991 Al Bielek, noted lecturer on the famous “Philadelphia Experiment” and the time travel/mind control experiments of the “Montauk Project,” recently spoke with The Scribe interview team in Yelm. Bielek gave an update on the current use of mind control and psychic warfare, and also offered a more detailed account of his experience in the Montauk Project. Montauk, also known as the Phoenix Project, used Bielek and his brother Duncan Cameron, to explore the underground cities of Mars.
SS: Sovereign Scribe –
AB: Al Bielek
SS: Regarding your experience on Mars you walked through the time tunnel, you take a step and you’re on Mars: What did you see?
AB: Well I was not on the surface of Mars. We were in the underground. The story goes back to the Alternative 3 book, the TV production in England outlining the fact that we have Mars bases, one or more, Provided by a joint operation with the US. government. I do not know if the Russians are in on it – and aliens. They are on the surface bases It’s a World Government operation really, that’s not strictly the United States government. After they were on the surface which was about 1969, they found that there where entrances to the underground sealed and they knew there was something down there. The rumors were that there was probably artifacts from an ancient civilization buried underground because there were a lot of remains above ground, ruined cities that have been there by NASA’s estimates maybe 300,000 years, 250,000 years. But they found the entrances all blocked, all scaled off to any underground areas. So the word went back through communications (in the late 70’s) to whomever back to the Montauk and Phoenix project, “Can you do anything about this for us? We can’t get into the underground of Mars.” They said, “Yes, I think we can. Give us some coordinates on the surface of the planet. We’ll have to run astronomical computation.” Which they did and plugged these all into the computer. They wanted two people to go and it happened to be Duncan and myself.
SS: Why two?
AB: To corroborate what the other one saw and also in case there was any problems in the underground. They didn’t really know what was down there. So they sent us and we went up there in the underground. [Using the Montauk Time-Space “Tunnel” device, developed as a result of the Philadelphia Experiment. (See Scribe issues 9,13 and 14.)] There was a problem with light. We had to take lighting with us at the time. Lateron, if I remember, we found some of their light sources and turned those on. We found eventually that the last remnants of the Martians, if you wish to call them that, died in the underground between 10 and 20,000 years ago by estimate, and they left everything they had of their civilization underground. We found enormous amounts of statuary which appeared to be religious.
SS: What did they look like? How big were they?
AB: Typically 6,7,8 foot tall, stone, gems embedded in them and so forth. SS. These were of human-like people?
AB: Yes. They were quite well preserved. Then we found archives. We found a lot of scientific equipment. We found electronic equipment down there; tons and tons of stuff. And the rumor was also later that … I didn’t recall until Duncan reminded me of it about a week ago. He said, “Don’t forget the 17,000 metric tons of Martian gold they took out. According to his recollection of it, it was very strange gold. It was 5 times denser than ours. It was worth an unbelievable fortune. Where it went we have no idea, but it was returned to Montauk and from there it went somewhere. There were several authorized trips. And Duncan and I got the bright idea since everything was in the computer let’s take a trip or two on our own and do our own exploring. So we did. After the second one it was found out and we were stopped. That was when he got into the archives and found enormous records of the civilization which was buried down there.
SS: What did you find out?
AB: He was the one that read them. I couldn’t read them. SS. He didn’t tell you?
AB: No. Well he did at the time but I can’t remember any of it now. It’s a very strange memory. On again, off again, and that part of it was never made clear to me as to what he really found. Right after that we were removed. But I do remember some of the other installations we saw down there. They had very odd, large generators of some type. If you did not see it, I recommend that you go see the movie Total Recall. In fact it was seeing that movie that reminded me of the fact that I had been there. Not the colonies but the shots of the underground where they showed these large, round canisters where the director said these were probably for oxygen generation. I’m not quite sure but we think so. I looked at them and said, “They’re not round. They’re hexagonal.” And I asked myself, “how the hell did I know that?” So that was our view of Mars from the underground. We didn’t see hardly a thing of it from the surface.
SS: Did you see ice under the surface like in Total Recall? All: Ice? No.
SS: If I remember the Movie, that’s what they melted a lot of ice to create the atmosphere.
AB: It was not ice under there. There were oxygen generators and they also had some storage. There was a generating system which apparently the ancients had left. I don’t really know much about it. but it was activated before they moved the surface colonies in. They also melted down the polar caps. The rumors are that they used a hydrogen bomb or two for that. I don’t know if that’s true. But they did melt down a lot of the polar ice so they would have some water. It’s still sparse but they have it. The atmosphere is thin but they have atmosphere. And the temperature is warm enough. In the equatorial region they have no problem surviving. It runs about 50o and of course the astronomers have known this for about 50 years or more. It’s quite livable in terms of temperature.
SS: The lighting that you mentioned. What was that like? AB: Unknown form of illumination, after we found out how to turn it on. Some of the power generators are still working. After we turned on the underground lighting we had no lack of light. Otherwise we had to carry our own and portable lighting was not all that effective because we were dealing with larger underground chambers, several hundred feet across high ceiling and portable lights are not very good for a large chamber like that. Eventually we found where they had their own lighting. It was very bright.
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SS: Have you any information on the face on Mars?
AB: Not that I remember in the underground. There’s more than one face on Mars, by the way. They found several. But I remember the NASA announcements some years ago, about 2 years ago that they’re receiving a low frequency radio transmission from Mars. It was about 50 kilohertz, if I remember correctly. Quite a low level indicating the equipment or whatever it was that was generating the RF signal, and it was coded, was quite old and probably nearly worn out, so they were amazed there was anything still coming out of it but it was enough of a signal that they could pick it up and put it through the computer and transcribe it. It was a warning. A warning message to humans not to repeat the mistakes they made.
SS: Do you have any feelings about being on Mars? What were your general impressions?
AB: We were digging in there remains of an old civilization that preceded ours and it felt very peculiar. To look at what was left at what was once a great civilization and realize that they literally died there and left everything behind and that eventually the thing shutdown. It was in the underground deliberately apparently was survival because the circle cities had long since been destroyed and they lived down there and stayed there. From what I understand of it, a number of the Martians survived whatever the attack was on the surface eventually took off for Earth and others decided to stay behind on Mars in the underground. And quite literally their progeny eventually died out and the whole race that was left behind on Mars died out. It’s rather a strange feeling to realize that the remnants of a race died out in the underground totally. They just left all their hardware behind.
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